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Season 5, Episode 1 38:05March 22, 2026

Founder and CTO of Lovelaice: Catalina Turlea on AI Experimentation, Domain Expertise, and Escaping the "Sea of Average"

Demystifies "black box" AI integration; highlights domain expertise over generic LLM wrappers, avoiding average results.

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Engineering leader who bridges the gap between technology and product thinking. Paul champions pragmatic solutions and explores how AI is fundamentally reshaping how we build, ship, and think about software products.

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